Why There Should Be At Least 1 Undergrad in All Law School Classes
The majority of the Team is in a class together here at St. Anford in which undergrads are also allowed to enroll. Like toddlers just learning to speak, these undergrads say the darndest things. Listening to their "persuasive" classroom commentary about how "xyz happened to my uncle so I know it's true," and counting the number of times they say "like" and "you know" can entertain me for an entire class period. We also have to attend a smaller discussion section for the class, which provides my setting for this post.
The course deals with sociological perspectives of law and so as an intro, the professor discussed the 3 fundamental sociolegal theories. My section has only 6 people in it, half of us sane and half of us, well, not, so I knew that any discussion we could have would border on ridiculous. But oh how I underestimated...
In our first in-depth discussion, the T.A. wanted to help us better learn these fundamental theories by applying them to a hypothetical case. We were to discuss how someone who believed each theory would approach a law banning cigarette smoking.
Reasonable Law Student: Well, a custom theorist might say that Americans really value their personal space, so they might be likely to support a ban on smoking because they feel they have the right to breath clean air in their personal space.
Crazy German T.A. Who Gets Confused by American Slang and Pop Culture References: Ok, that's good. What about Californians in particular?
LaTizzle: Californians are known for being pretty health-obsessed, or at least more health-conscious, so a cultural theorist would probably say that Californians would support the ban.
Silly Ass Undergrad Girl: Well, I don't know about that. Me, personally, I'm from the East Coast and I haven't been out here very long so maybe I don't know the whole picture [duh] but from what I've seen, Californians really like smoking marijuana so I don't think they would support a ban on smoking.
LT: You're assuming that Californians--or anyone else for that matter--see marijuana and cigarette smoking as essentially the same activity, which is definitely not the case.
SAUG: Well, they're both smoking, so you're just splitting hairs.
And before I could really go off...
White Undergrad Football Player With a Neck As Big As My Thigh: Wait, wait, I don't get it. Are we like pretending that this bill is in front of Congress and we're like the Senate or something debating whether we should pass it?
CGTAWGCASPCR: No, no, we're just looking at how each sociolegal theory would argue whether or not such a ban would be supported.
WUFPWNABAMY: Oh, ok, so we're pretending that the bill isn't in front of Congress just yet.
LT: There is no bill...
WUFPWNABAMY: Well, I think a conflict theorist would say that the fact that marijuana smoking is illegal is aimed at oppressing black people because the majority of black people I know smoke.
Other Reasonable Grad Student: I don't know about all that. Personally, I'm from upstate New York and the only people that I know that smoke are white.
LT: [thinking what the hell is this guy even talking about and how did it fit into the discussion i thought i was participating in] And as far as California goes, nearly every grower in the central valley is white, the whole stoner image stems from crazy white hippies smoking in Berkeley back in the day, and just believe me, what you're saying is not the case.
WUFPWNABAMY: Well...maybe I just kick it with more black people than all of you.
Don't be too hard on the guy, I heard that by being "the authority on black culture" in that room of 6 he was able to earn enough black coolness points to graduate to off-white.
The course deals with sociological perspectives of law and so as an intro, the professor discussed the 3 fundamental sociolegal theories. My section has only 6 people in it, half of us sane and half of us, well, not, so I knew that any discussion we could have would border on ridiculous. But oh how I underestimated...
In our first in-depth discussion, the T.A. wanted to help us better learn these fundamental theories by applying them to a hypothetical case. We were to discuss how someone who believed each theory would approach a law banning cigarette smoking.
Reasonable Law Student: Well, a custom theorist might say that Americans really value their personal space, so they might be likely to support a ban on smoking because they feel they have the right to breath clean air in their personal space.
Crazy German T.A. Who Gets Confused by American Slang and Pop Culture References: Ok, that's good. What about Californians in particular?
LaTizzle: Californians are known for being pretty health-obsessed, or at least more health-conscious, so a cultural theorist would probably say that Californians would support the ban.
Silly Ass Undergrad Girl: Well, I don't know about that. Me, personally, I'm from the East Coast and I haven't been out here very long so maybe I don't know the whole picture [duh] but from what I've seen, Californians really like smoking marijuana so I don't think they would support a ban on smoking.
LT: You're assuming that Californians--or anyone else for that matter--see marijuana and cigarette smoking as essentially the same activity, which is definitely not the case.
SAUG: Well, they're both smoking, so you're just splitting hairs.
And before I could really go off...
White Undergrad Football Player With a Neck As Big As My Thigh: Wait, wait, I don't get it. Are we like pretending that this bill is in front of Congress and we're like the Senate or something debating whether we should pass it?
CGTAWGCASPCR: No, no, we're just looking at how each sociolegal theory would argue whether or not such a ban would be supported.
WUFPWNABAMY: Oh, ok, so we're pretending that the bill isn't in front of Congress just yet.
LT: There is no bill...
WUFPWNABAMY: Well, I think a conflict theorist would say that the fact that marijuana smoking is illegal is aimed at oppressing black people because the majority of black people I know smoke.
Other Reasonable Grad Student: I don't know about all that. Personally, I'm from upstate New York and the only people that I know that smoke are white.
LT: [thinking what the hell is this guy even talking about and how did it fit into the discussion i thought i was participating in] And as far as California goes, nearly every grower in the central valley is white, the whole stoner image stems from crazy white hippies smoking in Berkeley back in the day, and just believe me, what you're saying is not the case.
WUFPWNABAMY: Well...maybe I just kick it with more black people than all of you.
Don't be too hard on the guy, I heard that by being "the authority on black culture" in that room of 6 he was able to earn enough black coolness points to graduate to off-white.
posted by LaTowna at 12:06 PM
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